What you should know…..Export from Solidworks into Mastercam


There is days you could wonder if CAD sales people have practiced extra hard on keeping a straight inviting face when they claim that there CAD software can import and export any of there competitors formats as if it was an extension of there body.
Now, I’m not going to throw the CAD sales guy into the “used car salesman” category, he do not deserve that. To be fair, most CAD software will import what ever you throw at it, maybe just not to the standard you had expected. So before calling Tech support and either screaming in frustration or pleating for a better solution and maybe a comforting hug, lets look at the issue from a logical and practical side of things.

Import/Export
Converting CAD from one system to another should be compared to translating from Russian to Greek with a dictionary where more than a few pages are missing. If you are trying to import a ProE file into Solidworks you need to realize that you are importing one competitor into another, and therefor in this example Solidworks only have what ProE gives them to work with in the conversion process. This goes for every CAD manufacture, so until we get all our different CAD extensions converted into one standard (keep dreaming, scooter) you should treat you import/export with some natural caution.

System Tolerance
So it is understood that there can be complications with translating the CAD data from one format to another. How about the system tolerance set up by the IT guy or you as a CAD captain?

~Mastercams System Tolerance page~
So imagine some guy(gentlemen, if he actually end up being your costumer) draws up some geometry on his 3rd world waterjet software, then saves it as DXF, and through a couple of sales reps. and a CAD Manager it ends up on your desk. Do you trust that the discount software that comes with a machine that think it is accurate when operating within +/-0.1mm? I didn’t think so.
So what does this mean? well at least make sure that your templates and tolerances are set to proper scale. And again, you need some caution when dealing with incoming files.

Here is a couple of more things you might find interesting when exporting from Solidworks into Mastercam…
A video is worth a thousands pictures

Flip, Flop Fly, my Solidworks part tipped over

Cover you solid with curves and arcs

Coming up…

What you should know…..Export from Mastercam into Solidworks coming soon~Yep what about the other way around.

This entry was posted in Mastercam, Solidworks and tagged , , , . Bookmark the permalink.
  • http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/ Jon Banquer

    Lars,

    In my opinion if solid chaining worked well in Mastercam there would be no reason to have to put lines and arcs on an imported solid. Based on my experience using Mastercam solid chaining I feel I have little choice but to create arcs and lines on the solid because Mastercam solid chaining isn’t anywhere near as good as wireframe chaining. This whole process of creating arcs and lines from a solid in Mastercam is just one more way that Mastercam wastes massive amounts of my time and makes toolpath creation needlessly tedious.

    I’d like to read your opinion on solid chaining in Mastercam.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://www.jonbanquer.wordpress.com/ Jon Banquer

    Lars,

    In my opinion if solid chaining worked well in Mastercam there would be no reason to have to put lines and arcs on an imported solid. Based on my experience using Mastercam solid chaining I feel I have little choice but to create arcs and lines on the solid because Mastercam solid chaining isn't anywhere near as good as wireframe chaining. This whole process of creating arcs and lines from a solid in Mastercam is just one more way that Mastercam wastes massive amounts of my time and makes toolpath creation needlessly tedious.

    I'd like to read your opinion on solid chaining in Mastercam.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://cadcamstuff.com/ Lars Christensen

    I agree with you Jon. There is room for some serious solid chaining improvements. You have more knowledge about other CAM packages then I. Are you aware of a standalone CAM that have invested some quality efforts into this?

  • http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/ Jon Banquer

    You said:

    “room for some serious solid chaining improvements”.

    How many years has this very serious problem with solid chaining in Mastercam existed with no attention to it?

    Since the introduction of solid chaining in Mastercam many years ago has solid chaining in Mastercam gotten *any real improvement*?

    One of the reasons so many people value fully integrated CADCAM has nothing to do with toolpathing. The sad fact is that stand alone CAM wastes way much too much time with badly broken basics.

    To directly answer your question I don’t know of any stand-alone CAM package that has decent chaining or that has “invested some quality efforts into this”.

    In my opinion the biggest problem with Mastercam, DP Technology Esprit, etc. isn’t toolpathing related. It’s lousy chaining, lousy coordinate system creation, lousy geometry selection, etc.

    CAM companies that I talk to don’t want to spend a penny on CAD because they feel it’s wasted money and they don’t want to compete in any way with SolidWorks, Autodesk Inventor, Solid Edge, Pro-E, etc. hence what people like you and I are left to deal with are lousy second rate tools that work very poorly and waste massive amounts of time.

    Mastercam should have been made into Mastercadcam many years ago. Same for DP Technology Esprit, Surfcam, Featurecam, Gibbscam, etc. For years I’ve said you can’t really separate CAM for CAD. The clique of idiots on the Outhouse Solutions e-Mastecam forum disagreed and said I was full of it.

    Recently ShopWare, whom I consider to be the best Mastercam VAR in the U.S. and in Canada because they focus so strongly on support and education, made a video where they make it a point to let the viewer know how much better chaining in Mastercam For SolidWorks is than in stand-alone Mastercam.

    http://www.shopwareinc.com/tag/webinar/

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://cadcamstuff.com/ Lars Christensen

    I agree with you Jon. There is room for some serious solid chaining improvements. You have more knowledge about other CAM packages then I. Are you aware of a standalone CAM that have invested some quality efforts into this?

  • http://www.jonbanquer.wordpress.com/ Jon Banquer

    You said:

    “room for some serious solid chaining improvements”.

    How many years has this very serious problem with solid chaining in Mastercam existed with no attention to it?

    Since the introduction of solid chaining in Mastercam many years ago has solid chaining in Mastercam gotten *any real improvement*?

    One of the reasons so many people value fully integrated CADCAM has nothing to do with toolpathing. The sad fact is that stand alone CAM wastes way much too much time with badly broken basics.

    To directly answer your question I don't know of any stand-alone CAM package that has decent chaining or that has “invested some quality efforts into this”.

    In my opinion the biggest problem with Mastercam, DP Technology Esprit, etc. isn't toolpathing related. It's lousy chaining, lousy coordinate system creation, lousy geometry selection, etc.

    CAM companies that I talk to don't want to spend a penny on CAD because they feel it's wasted money and they don't want to compete in any way with SolidWorks, Autodesk Inventor, Solid Edge, Pro-E, etc. hence what people like you and I are left to deal with are lousy second rate tools that work very poorly and waste massive amounts of time.

    Mastercam should have been made into Mastercadcam many years ago. Same for DP Technology Esprit, Surfcam, Featurecam, Gibbscam, etc. For years I've said you can't really separate CAM for CAD. The clique of idiots on the Outhouse Solutions e-Mastecam forum disagreed and said I was full of it.

    Recently ShopWare, whom I consider to be the best Mastercam VAR in the U.S. and in Canada because they focus so strongly on support and education, made a video where they make it a point to let the viewer know how much better chaining in Mastercam For SolidWorks is than in stand-alone Mastercam.

    http://www.shopwareinc.com/tag/webinar/

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/ Jon Banquer

    Lars,

    I’d appreciate if you would view this video and comment on whether you feel stand-alone Mastercam should offer something like this. I don’t think Mastercam For SolidWorks offers this either and I see this as a very helpful tool for saving time while programming parts:

    http://www.solidcam.com/browsing_for_geometries_web_en,61332.html

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/ Jon Banquer

    Also,

    How about the major differences in chaining with Mastercam For SolidWorks Vs. stand alone Mastercam?

    This video shows a few of them:

    http://www.shopwareinc.com/downloads/mc4sw-webinar.wmv

    How about the fact that in Mastercam For SolidWorks the user has fully shaded arrows when creating a WCS and for Chaining vs having to deal with thin, non-shaded, wireframe arrows in stand alone Mastercam that often disappear completely when the part model is rotated. Even when the thin, non-shaded, wireframe arrows don’t disappear completely they are often very hard to see!

    What is the reason that release after release after release these features are still not available in stand alone Mastercam?

    How about the FACT that the Chain Manager appears in the SolidWorks Property Manager rather than blocking the model as it does in stand alone Mastercam?

    Why have dialog boxes that block the part model not been moved to the Mastercam Machining Operations Manager by now? How many releases of Mastercam since Mastercam X has this been an annoying problem that hasn’t been addressed by CNC Software?

    It’s just pathetic that the above mentioned are *still issues* after all these years!

    In the video link I gave above Chris Kozell of ShopWare says that working at the “design level in SolidWorks saves an exorbitant amount of CAM programming time”

    You bet it does compared to stand-alone Mastercam!!!

    It’s just too bad many of the total losers on the e-Mastercam clique of idiots web forum refuse to say this kind of thing. Lets remember this is coming from a Mastercam VAR!!!

    I love ShopWare and their whole approach to selling and supporting Mastercam! I love that they publish my comments and don’t sensor them like a jerk and a liar like Tyler Robinson of Out House Solutions does. Worse, Tyler Robinson then lies about what he does when posting on the independent Mastercam forum and on the Out House Solutions e-Mastercam forum he tries to control. Somebody needs to fire this idiot and bring back Dave Thomson who started the e-Mastercam forum.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://www.jonbanquer.wordpress.com/ Jon Banquer

    Lars,

    I'd appreciate if you would view this video and comment on whether you feel stand-alone Mastercam should offer something like this. I don't think Mastercam For SolidWorks offers this either and I see this as a very helpful tool for saving time while programming parts:

    http://www.solidcam.com/browsing_for_geometries

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • http://www.jonbanquer.wordpress.com/ Jon Banquer

    Also,

    How about the major differences in chaining with Mastercam For SolidWorks Vs. stand alone Mastercam?

    This video shows a few of them:

    http://www.shopwareinc.com/downloads/mc4sw-webi

    How about the fact that in Mastercam For SolidWorks the user has fully shaded arrows when creating a WCS and for Chaining vs having to deal with thin, non-shaded, wireframe arrows in stand alone Mastercam that often disappear completely when the part model is rotated. Even when the thin, non-shaded, wireframe arrows don't disappear completely they are often very hard to see!

    What is the reason that release after release after release these features are still not available in stand alone Mastercam?

    How about the FACT that the Chain Manager appears in the SolidWorks Property Manager rather than blocking the model as it does in stand alone Mastercam?

    Why have dialog boxes that block the part model not been moved to the Mastercam Machining Operations Manager by now? How many releases of Mastercam since Mastercam X has this been an annoying problem that hasn't been addressed by CNC Software?

    It's just pathetic that the above mentioned are *still issues* after all these years!

    In the video link I gave above Chris Kozell of ShopWare says that working at the “design level in SolidWorks saves an exorbitant amount of CAM programming time”

    You bet it does compared to stand-alone Mastercam!!!

    It's just too bad many of the total losers on the e-Mastercam clique of idiots refuse to say this kind of thing. Remember this is coming from a Mastercam VAR!!!

    I love ShopWare and their whole approach to selling and supporting Mastercam! I love that they publish my comments and don't sensor them like a jerk and a liar like Tyler Robinson of Out House Solutions does. Worse, Tyler Robinson then lies about what he does when posting on the independent Mastercam forum and on the Out House Solutions e-Mastercam forum he tries to control. Somebody needs to fire this idiot and bring back Dave Thomson who started the e-Mastercam forum.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA

  • Nurk

    Hello…

    Is it possible import solidworks native file to mastercam ?

    Thanks

  • http://cadcamstuff.com/ Lars Christensen

    Hi Nurk,
    Yes, Mastercam will open native part, assemblies and drawing files from Solidworks. The 1st section of this video shows bringing in a native Solidworks file into Mastercam
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgCbeVVpbE&feature=player_embedded

    Thank you
    Lars

  • Nurk

    Hello…

    Is it possible import solidworks native file to mastercam ?

    Thanks

  • http://cadcamstuff.com/ Lars Christensen

    Hi Nurk,
    Yes, Mastercam will open native part, assemblies and drawing files from Solidworks. The 1st section of this video shows bringing in a native Solidworks file into Mastercam
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgCbeVVpbE&feat

    Thank you
    Lars

  • Voodootyler

    Thanks for the kind words Jon. Your statements are hilarious because: Dave Thomson was who hired me, and, I work personally with a lot of the people at Shopware (including Chris Kozell) and they all know what kind of person I am, and what kind of person you are.
    I was the only one willing to help you when everyone said to ban you from the forum for your antics which were eventually displayed.
    I'm sorry that this is what you still spend your free time on: misinformation. Keep it up champ.

  • http://farmhouse-kitchen-table.co.cc farmhouse kitchen table

    Really great information in your blog. Please write more so that we can get more updates in your blog. Thanks a lot!

    regards

    sears parts

  • http://jonbanquer.blogspot.com/ Jon Banquer

    http://451host.com/ink.html There is nothing better than night full of satisfaction